he wants more spending, in fact, and under no circumstances will he touch medicare, medicaid, social security. agree with that? >> surprised if he touchedded them if there's no real substantive cuts. the only way to cut the diset would be to hit those. i don't think he will. think about this. if simpson-bowles was enacted two years ago or now, if it had, ten years down the road, debt to gdp would be 65%. livable. in greece, it's 100 and change. the other european countries it approaches a hundred. if we do nothing including the new deal putting put together, t 79-point something percent to gdp. if they do sequestering, that's 70%. there's -- we're moving in the right direction, but president obama definitely has to if he wants the number down to a liven number, a healthy economy, he has to address those, but likely won't. >> one last one, you were wearing an american flag. are you happy with the new america? >> i don't think the america that i know has ever changed, and that flag will always remain right there. >> okay. eric, what a pleasure. will you come again? >> i will. >> on a r